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20VC: Base44's Maor Shlomo on How Vibe Coding Will Kill SaaS and Salesforce | Why it is BS that Vibe Coding Platforms Do Not Have Defensibility and Bad Margins | Why He Worries About Google, Not Replit and Lovable | Why Long Anthropic, Not OpenAI?

Shownote

Maor Shlomo is the Founder and CEO of Base44, the AI building platform that Maor built from idea to $80M acquisition by Wix, in just 8 months. Today the company serves millions of users and will hit $50M ARR by the end of the year. Before Base44, Maor was ...

Highlights

In this insightful conversation, Maor Shlomo, the founder and CEO of Base44, shares his journey building a high-impact AI platform from the ground up and selling it for $80 million in just over a year. The discussion dives into the transformative forces reshaping software development, particularly how emerging paradigms like 'vibe coding' are challenging long-standing SaaS models.
05:02
AI-powered Vibe Coding will become the largest category in software
18:38
Base44 enables users to customize software without seeing code.
27:34
A better, cheaper model dominating for six months could collapse Anthropic's revenue quickly.
28:03
Using a proxy to route simple prompts to cheaper open-source models can improve margins.
44:43
Businesses relying only on LLM prompts lack a defensible moat.
52:32
Either Lovable or Replit is overvalued, or Wix is undervalued — the speaker believes Wix is undervalued.
56:02
Focus on your business and product, not competitors or margins
57:00
The talent war in Silicon Valley is tough, and it's suitable for those aiming to get funded and burn cash.
58:00
Start with a throw-away first version and embrace easy reversion when using AI tools.
1:01:07
Money’s value lies in saving time, helping others, and funding future projects

Chapters

Selling a startup built for fun
00:00
How Vibe Coding is Going to Kill Salesforce and SaaS
05:00
Do Vibe Coding platforms have any defensibility?
13:00
I am not worried about Replit and Lovable, I am worried about Google…
22:00
Margins do not matter, the price of the models will go to zero
28:00
Speed to copy has never been lower; has the technical moat been eroded?
31:00
How does Base44 beat Cursor?
47:00
Do not pay attention to competition: focus on your business
56:00
How Base44 is helped, not hurt by not being in Silicon Valley?
57:00
What percent of code will be written by AI in 12 months?
58:00
OpenAI or Anthropic: Why Maor is Long Anthropic?
1:01:00
If I could have any board member in the world it would be Jack Dorsey
1:03:00

Transcript

Maor Shlomo: From all things in the industry, I think the margins are the least thing that I'm worried about. We're taking into consideration that the prices of model will go down towards zero. Me personally, I don't believe we'll hit a speed bump. I don't...