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'The Interview': John Green Knows That No One Really Loves You on the Internet

The Daily

Nov 22
The Daily

The Daily

Nov 22

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The writer and YouTube star on trying to get back to the experiences that make us feel alive. * Thoughts? Email us at theinterview@nytimes.com * Watch our show on YouTube: youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast * For transcripts and more, visit: nytimes.com/...

Highlights

In a reflective and candid conversation, John Green opens up about the tension between despair and hope, shaped by personal trials, parenthood, and his evolving relationship with storytelling and digital culture.
00:00
Humanity can't afford despair, even when it feels inevitable
18:45
The internet is a flawed but valuable force, worthy of a three-out-of-five-star rating.
23:00
Online success doesn't fill the inner void
28:42
I used to give class updates on whether I'd had sex — I'm horrified now
37:52
Transcendental experiences are real even without belief in God
41:19
Getting more sacred experiences comes through practice.

Chapters

How does one hold onto hope amid suffering?
00:00
What responsibility comes with fame and storytelling?
12:46
Can the internet truly connect us—or is it making us lonelier?
19:34
How does becoming a parent change your fears and purpose?
26:01
Why do teenage emotions shape the way we see meaning forever?
37:52
Where do we find the sacred when we don’t believe in God?
41:19

Transcript

David Marchese: I gave my brother a New York Times subscription. John Green: We exchange articles. And so having read the same article, we can discuss it. David Marchese: He sent me a year-long subscription so I have access to all the games. John Green:...