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#485 – David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

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#485 – David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Lex Fridman Podcast

Nov 17
Lex Fridman Podcast

Lex Fridman Podcast

Nov 17
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David Kirtley is a nuclear fusion engineer and CEO of Helion Energy, a company working on building the world’s first commercial fusion power plant by 2028. Thank you for listening Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep485-sc See below ...

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In this conversation, David Kirtley, a nuclear fusion engineer and CEO of Helion Energy, delves into the science, safety, and future implications of fusion energy—a technology poised to redefine how humanity generates power.
18:04
Deuterium from seawater can power humanity for millions of years
24:55
Fusion requires continuous fuel input and is not self-sustaining like fission
29:44
Nuclear fusion is inherently safe because it has no chain reaction and can be instantly shut off.
35:31
Fusion power plants cannot be used to make nuclear weapons, unlike fission reactors.
38:42
Fusion can decouple energy control as the fuel is widely available
46:55
Helion was the first to license a fusion system as a particle accelerator.
1:06:13
Plasma in a field-reversed configuration generates its own magnetic field and self-traps, similar to solar plasmoids.
1:20:20
Temperature in fusion is about particle velocity, not thermal heat.
1:31:09
GPU advancements have significantly accelerated particle-based fusion simulations.
1:47:28
Pulsed magnetic fusion can achieve 80-85% energy efficiency by directly converting fusion energy into electricity.
2:16:37
The fusion glow is visible as a bright purple fuchsia light to the human eye.
2:18:13
Direct DC power from fusion can efficiently run data center GPUs
2:34:21
Helion aims to directly recover electricity from fusion, improving efficiency for space and terrestrial systems
2:39:50
Building fusion systems has made me more optimistic about the Fermi Paradox.

Chapters

Introduction
00:00
Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
03:00
Nuclear fission vs fusion
11:35
Physics of E=mc^2
21:35
Is nuclear fusion safe?
26:50
Chernobyl
32:11
Geopolitics
38:38
Extreme scenarios
40:33
How nuclear fusion works
47:28
Extreme temperatures
1:20:20
Fusion control and simulation
1:25:21
Electricity from fusion
1:37:15
First fusion power plant in 2028
2:11:20
Energy needs of GPU clusters
2:18:13
Kardashev scale
2:28:38
Fermi Paradox
2:36:33

Transcript

Lex Fridman: The following is a conversation with David Kirtley, a nuclear engineer, expert on nuclear fusion, and the CEO of Helion Energy, a company working on building nuclear fusion reactors. And have made incredible progress in a short period of time....