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Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

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Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Dwarkesh Podcast

Oct 31
Dwarkesh Podcast

Dwarkesh Podcast

Oct 31
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In this lecture, military historian Sarah Paine explains how Russia—and specifically Stalin—completely derailed China’s rise, slowing them down for over a century. This lecture was particularly interesting to me because, in my opinion, the Chinese Civil W...

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This podcast features military historian Sarah Paine dissecting the complex and often detrimental role Russia, particularly under Stalin, played in obstructing China's path to power throughout the 20th century. The discussion reveals how geopolitical maneuvering, imperial ambitions, and ideological contradictions shaped the trajectories of both nations.
15:10
The USSR took Manchuria's industrial base after WWII instead of China receiving war indemnities.
25:48
China got its atomic weapon in 1964, then became more assertive about territorial rights
39:47
Russia was a major practitioner of 20th-century imperialism despite democratic pretenses.
45:23
China learned from Gorbachev: prioritize stability, economic reform, and use force if needed to prevent collapse.
1:22:07
Russia may become dependent on China like North Korea

Chapters

How Russia took advantage of China’s weakness
00:00
After Stalin, China’s rise
22:58
Russian imperialism
33:52
China’s and Russia’s existential problems
45:23
Q&A: Sino-Soviet Split
1:04:55
Stalin’s lessons from WW2
1:22:44

Transcript

Sarah Paine: People are worried about whether there's going to be an enduring relationship with China and Russia. And if you look at this picture, the relations look more glacial than cordial. And the little ones hauling on the arm of the big one. And one ...